1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,648 [Beau] Hi, my name is Beau and this is Tom 2 00:00:02,648 --> 00:00:05,594 and we did an economic base analysis 3 00:00:05,594 --> 00:00:08,290 of Virginia in 2012 and 2017. 4 00:00:14,830 --> 00:00:17,875 A research question was what sectors of 5 00:00:17,875 --> 00:00:19,596 Virginia's employment industries have 6 00:00:19,596 --> 00:00:21,720 the largest impact on their economy. 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,450 So we were interested in seeing the 8 00:00:24,450 --> 00:00:27,500 value of certain industries and how that 9 00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:30,200 affects county level economy as well 10 00:00:30,281 --> 00:00:32,909 as state level economy in Virginia. 11 00:00:32,910 --> 00:00:35,742 The way we did this was by using 12 00:00:35,742 --> 00:00:37,220 economic base analysis. 13 00:00:37,220 --> 00:00:40,476 This uses basic and non basic jobs to 14 00:00:40,476 --> 00:00:43,579 define all industries or all workers. 15 00:00:43,580 --> 00:00:47,003 A basic job is one that brings 16 00:00:47,003 --> 00:00:49,140 in non basic jobs. 17 00:00:49,140 --> 00:00:52,521 So it could be a public administration 18 00:00:52,521 --> 00:00:56,040 position and by them working 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,998 it would bring in other jobs 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,444 such as janitors or waiters and waitresses- 21 00:01:02,450 --> 00:01:05,894 and it's important to economic base analysis 22 00:01:05,900 --> 00:01:07,872 how the wealth circulates 23 00:01:07,872 --> 00:01:09,844 through the local economy. 24 00:01:12,820 --> 00:01:14,960 So why we picked Virginia? 25 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:19,040 We were interested in seeing 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,169 how a state with such a diverse 27 00:01:22,169 --> 00:01:24,866 industry base uses - or 28 00:01:24,866 --> 00:01:26,971 how economic base analysis can 29 00:01:26,971 --> 00:01:29,568 show the importance of that. 30 00:01:29,570 --> 00:01:31,860 So Virginia is really interesting; 31 00:01:31,860 --> 00:01:34,919 It has a lot of public administration 32 00:01:34,919 --> 00:01:37,729 jobs in north because of all 33 00:01:37,729 --> 00:01:39,613 the government employees and 34 00:01:39,613 --> 00:01:42,399 then to the south and west 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,364 it's more agricultural based. 36 00:01:44,364 --> 00:01:46,328 So this diversification makes 37 00:01:46,328 --> 00:01:49,240 it a really good example for. 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,028 economic base analysis. 39 00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:57,370 The existing literature for 40 00:01:57,370 --> 00:01:59,720 Andrews he explained how there 41 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,167 are basic and non basic jobs. 42 00:02:02,170 --> 00:02:04,034 As I said earlier, 43 00:02:04,034 --> 00:02:06,364 basic jobs really important because 44 00:02:06,364 --> 00:02:08,836 they bring in non basic jobs. 45 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,170 The next source that we had 46 00:02:12,170 --> 00:02:14,240 Shows that increase in basic 47 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,252 jobs in a region leads to more 48 00:02:17,252 --> 00:02:19,397 non-basic jobs in that region, 49 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,368 meaning that if one person gets hired, 50 00:02:22,370 --> 00:02:25,770 as I said earlier in a basic industry, 51 00:02:25,770 --> 00:02:28,026 they can allow for wealth to 52 00:02:28,026 --> 00:02:30,582 spread and be re-spent through other 53 00:02:30,582 --> 00:02:32,997 industries that are non-basic. 54 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,575 Lee explained why basic employment 55 00:02:35,575 --> 00:02:38,150 is crucial to the economy. 56 00:02:38,150 --> 00:02:39,464 This is because 57 00:02:39,464 --> 00:02:41,654 employment is a result of external 58 00:02:41,654 --> 00:02:44,000 demand for goods and services, 59 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,325 and this external demand creates 60 00:02:46,325 --> 00:02:49,480 the basic and non-basic jobs of 61 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,718 industry of of of the economy 62 00:02:51,718 --> 00:02:54,544 and can put one industry on top 63 00:02:54,544 --> 00:02:57,274 of the other and explain how you 64 00:02:57,274 --> 00:02:59,476 should invest or how policy makers 65 00:02:59,476 --> 00:03:02,615 of the state can invest in order 66 00:03:02,615 --> 00:03:04,479 to enhance certain industries. 67 00:03:08,310 --> 00:03:11,720 So for our employment sectors, 68 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,120 there are 13 different industries, 69 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,484 Agriculture, Construction, 70 00:03:16,484 --> 00:03:18,530 Manufacturing, Wholesale trade, 71 00:03:18,530 --> 00:03:21,500 Retail Trade, Transportation, 72 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:23,480 Information, Finance, 73 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,850 Professional/Science, Education, Arts, 74 00:03:28,850 --> 00:03:31,405 Public administration, and Other, which 75 00:03:31,405 --> 00:03:33,960 are non-public administration jobs. 76 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,649 On top of those, we also included 77 00:03:37,649 --> 00:03:40,249 Social Security, because as I said 78 00:03:40,250 --> 00:03:42,682 the wealth that comes into the economy 79 00:03:42,682 --> 00:03:45,369 and how it's respent is really important. 80 00:03:45,370 --> 00:03:47,610 So Social Security can play a large 81 00:03:47,610 --> 00:03:50,269 role in that because it explains wealth 82 00:03:50,269 --> 00:03:53,054 coming into the economy that isn't a 83 00:03:53,054 --> 00:03:55,246 result of a basic or non-basic job. 84 00:03:59,170 --> 00:04:04,154 [Tom] So as Beau outlined, these are the 85 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,248 industries that we're looking at, 86 00:04:06,250 --> 00:04:08,134 and so for this. 87 00:04:08,134 --> 00:04:09,547 Economic base analysis. 88 00:04:09,550 --> 00:04:11,366 we're looking at basic 89 00:04:11,366 --> 00:04:13,636 employment in 2012 and 2017, 90 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,358 and we're using data for sorry, 91 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,176 we're looking at non-basic 92 00:04:18,176 --> 00:04:20,446 employment for 2012 and 2017, 93 00:04:20,450 --> 00:04:23,746 and therefore it's important for us to look 94 00:04:23,746 --> 00:04:27,705 at the basic employment in the years before. 95 00:04:27,710 --> 00:04:30,888 This is because if a) you know, 96 00:04:30,890 --> 00:04:34,580 using the example that Bo had of a person 97 00:04:34,580 --> 00:04:38,567 gets hired into a public administration job 98 00:04:38,570 --> 00:04:40,610 their job allows, for example, 99 00:04:40,610 --> 00:04:42,806 another worker to be hired at 100 00:04:42,806 --> 00:04:45,273 a local movie theater that that 101 00:04:45,273 --> 00:04:47,137 public administrator goes to, 102 00:04:47,140 --> 00:04:49,498 or another grocer to be hired 103 00:04:49,498 --> 00:04:51,630 at the local grocery store. 104 00:04:51,630 --> 00:04:54,388 So it's important to look at basic 105 00:04:54,388 --> 00:04:56,520 employment from the year before, 106 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,831 because there would be some kind of 107 00:04:59,831 --> 00:05:03,240 delayed effect that the basic job in 2011 108 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,880 would have on non basic employment in 2012. 109 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,863 So this is just a graph of 110 00:05:11,863 --> 00:05:14,689 the net change in all, 111 00:05:14,690 --> 00:05:17,350 in employment for all of those industries, 112 00:05:17,350 --> 00:05:19,348 and we see that the greatest 113 00:05:19,348 --> 00:05:21,206 change in industries comes from 114 00:05:21,206 --> 00:05:23,046 professional and scientific jobs, 115 00:05:23,050 --> 00:05:26,758 education, and jobs in the arts. 116 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,092 And of course, 117 00:05:28,092 --> 00:05:30,756 the biggest change is Social Security 118 00:05:30,756 --> 00:05:32,529 recipients, which makes sense. 119 00:05:32,529 --> 00:05:34,744 Virginia is a state that, 120 00:05:34,750 --> 00:05:35,881 like the nation, 121 00:05:35,881 --> 00:05:37,766 is aging and therefore more 122 00:05:37,766 --> 00:05:40,182 people in Virginia are qualifying 123 00:05:40,182 --> 00:05:42,298 for Social Security payments. 124 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:43,186 In addition, 125 00:05:43,186 --> 00:05:45,844 Virginia tends to be a wealthier state, 126 00:05:45,850 --> 00:05:48,902 so people can, people have worked in 127 00:05:48,902 --> 00:05:51,618 Virginia and want to retire there. 128 00:05:56,030 --> 00:05:58,208 So when conducting economic base analysis, 129 00:05:58,210 --> 00:06:00,388 there is a two step process. 130 00:06:00,390 --> 00:06:03,180 The first is to identify 131 00:06:03,180 --> 00:06:05,412 which of the previous 132 00:06:05,420 --> 00:06:08,000 industry sectors are basic and non- 133 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,487 basic and the way that we do this 134 00:06:11,487 --> 00:06:14,013 is we compare the concentration of 135 00:06:14,020 --> 00:06:15,795 Employees in a certain industry 136 00:06:15,795 --> 00:06:18,392 in the state and we compare it 137 00:06:18,392 --> 00:06:20,636 to some benchmarks in this case. 138 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,168 And the logic here is that if public 139 00:06:24,168 --> 00:06:26,866 administration officials make up a higher 140 00:06:26,866 --> 00:06:29,036 percentage of the Virginia workforce, 141 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,622 there's an outsized demand in Virginia 142 00:06:32,622 --> 00:06:35,524 for public administration jobs when 143 00:06:35,524 --> 00:06:38,478 compared to the nation as a whole. 144 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,790 Using public administration is just a 145 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:43,279 really good example because as Beau outlined, 146 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,765 not only does Virginia have its usual 147 00:06:45,765 --> 00:06:47,340 public administration from schools, 148 00:06:47,340 --> 00:06:48,812 local government, state government, 149 00:06:48,812 --> 00:06:49,916 things like that, 150 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,134 Virginia also is in very close 151 00:06:52,134 --> 00:06:53,610 proximity to Washington DC, 152 00:06:53,610 --> 00:06:56,655 so there's a very large amount of 153 00:06:56,655 --> 00:06:59,070 federal government workers who would 154 00:06:59,070 --> 00:07:01,146 qualify as public administrators. 155 00:07:01,150 --> 00:07:04,685 So we use a location quotient to 156 00:07:04,685 --> 00:07:07,784 identify where the basic or which 157 00:07:07,784 --> 00:07:11,249 of the industries are basic or not. 158 00:07:11,250 --> 00:07:13,940 So since it's a quotient, 159 00:07:13,940 --> 00:07:19,300 you're dividing and so to determine 160 00:07:19,300 --> 00:07:21,485 which industries have a higher 161 00:07:21,485 --> 00:07:23,670 concentration of workers in Virginia 162 00:07:23,670 --> 00:07:26,215 when you're dividing the concentration 163 00:07:26,215 --> 00:07:28,760 in Virginia by the concentration at the 164 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,808 National level you're looking for location 165 00:07:31,808 --> 00:07:34,579 quotients that are greater than one, 166 00:07:34,580 --> 00:07:36,731 which would indicate. 167 00:07:36,731 --> 00:07:37,448 More. 168 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,480 So for 2011 basic employment, 169 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,360 there were eight different 170 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,240 industries that qualified as, 171 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,124 excuse me, basic employment. 172 00:07:50,124 --> 00:07:51,537 Those were construction, 173 00:07:51,540 --> 00:07:52,950 retail information, finance, 174 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:54,360 professional scientific jobs, 175 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,975 education, other and other sorry 176 00:07:56,975 --> 00:07:59,590 other non public administration jobs 177 00:07:59,666 --> 00:08:01,786 and public administration. And then 178 00:08:01,786 --> 00:08:04,877 we see from 2016 that there were 179 00:08:04,877 --> 00:08:07,547 only four but this time interestingly 180 00:08:07,550 --> 00:08:10,847 the Social Security recipients acted as a 181 00:08:12,870 --> 00:08:15,198 As a basic industry, so there were more 182 00:08:15,198 --> 00:08:16,858 Social Security recipients in Virginia 183 00:08:16,858 --> 00:08:18,892 as a percentage of Virginia's labor 184 00:08:18,892 --> 00:08:20,879 force than there were in the nation. 185 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,505 [Beau] So here on this screen 186 00:08:28,505 --> 00:08:30,797 is our empirical model. 187 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,754 All the industries that are on the 188 00:08:33,754 --> 00:08:37,012 screen right now were basic and as you 189 00:08:37,012 --> 00:08:40,158 can see we were studying 2012 and 2017. 190 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,128 However, we had to lag those years and 191 00:08:43,128 --> 00:08:46,785 look at the previous years in order to see 192 00:08:46,785 --> 00:08:50,338 the full effect of basic employment in 2011, 193 00:08:50,340 --> 00:08:53,994 you would have to see what 194 00:08:53,994 --> 00:08:58,718 happens in 2012, and the same goes for 2017. 195 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:04,606 We used ordinary least squares method 196 00:09:04,606 --> 00:09:08,329 in order to estimate these equations, 197 00:09:08,330 --> 00:09:11,312 and as you can see in 198 00:09:11,312 --> 00:09:14,680 the 2017 equation, 199 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:18,100 Social Security recipients was also 200 00:09:18,100 --> 00:09:23,564 included because it was 201 00:09:23,564 --> 00:09:27,669 determined to be a basic job per say 202 00:09:27,669 --> 00:09:31,505 because of how higher valued it was 203 00:09:31,510 --> 00:09:35,130 to the national level. 204 00:09:43,230 --> 00:09:45,445 [Tom] So when we're looking at 205 00:09:45,445 --> 00:09:47,217 2012 non-basic employment, 206 00:09:47,220 --> 00:09:49,430 this is our regression results. 207 00:09:49,430 --> 00:09:52,398 So we're looking for, 208 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,990 we're running all of the. 209 00:09:54,990 --> 00:09:57,210 industries that were 210 00:09:57,210 --> 00:10:00,170 considered basic by a location 211 00:10:00,170 --> 00:10:03,494 quotient in 2011 and we're using 212 00:10:03,494 --> 00:10:06,315 them as independent variables to 213 00:10:06,315 --> 00:10:09,369 calculate the change in non-basic 214 00:10:09,369 --> 00:10:11,710 employment from 2011 to 2012. 215 00:10:11,710 --> 00:10:14,797 And so we had 132 or a sample size 216 00:10:14,797 --> 00:10:17,971 of 132 and that is just a we're 217 00:10:17,971 --> 00:10:20,406 doing a cross sectional analysis 218 00:10:20,406 --> 00:10:24,501 of all of the independent cities in 219 00:10:24,501 --> 00:10:27,362 Virginia and counties in Virginia. 220 00:10:27,362 --> 00:10:30,770 So there are 132 total localities 221 00:10:30,866 --> 00:10:33,694 of those that we were able to 222 00:10:33,694 --> 00:10:36,450 use as cross sectional data. 223 00:10:36,450 --> 00:10:39,035 We see that the R-squared 224 00:10:39,035 --> 00:10:41,103 value is pretty high- 225 00:10:41,110 --> 00:10:42,146 it's .993- 226 00:10:42,146 --> 00:10:45,254 so theoretically the model explains 99.3% 227 00:10:45,260 --> 00:10:48,879 of the variation in non-basic employment, 228 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,808 which is good. 229 00:10:51,810 --> 00:10:54,620 And identifying which of these 230 00:10:54,620 --> 00:10:56,868 basic industries are significant 231 00:10:56,868 --> 00:10:59,016 at a 95% confidence level? 232 00:10:59,016 --> 00:11:02,214 We're looking for P values that 233 00:11:02,214 --> 00:11:05,117 are less than or equal 2.05, 234 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,064 so we see that six of our identified 235 00:11:09,064 --> 00:11:12,288 basic industries do meet that threshold, 236 00:11:12,290 --> 00:11:14,850 and so those are construction, 237 00:11:14,850 --> 00:11:16,726 retail trade, finance, education, 238 00:11:16,726 --> 00:11:19,071 other non public administration jobs, 239 00:11:19,071 --> 00:11:21,561 and public administration. However. 240 00:11:21,561 --> 00:11:24,987 something that is interesting to note 241 00:11:24,987 --> 00:11:28,940 is that according to economic base theory, 242 00:11:28,940 --> 00:11:32,102 a basic job provides wealth 243 00:11:32,102 --> 00:11:34,850 for other, non-basic jobs. 244 00:11:34,850 --> 00:11:37,002 And so we would 245 00:11:37,002 --> 00:11:39,154 expect the coefficients 246 00:11:39,154 --> 00:11:42,370 for basic jobs to be positive. 247 00:11:42,370 --> 00:11:45,586 However, as you can see here, 248 00:11:45,590 --> 00:11:46,126 construction, 249 00:11:46,126 --> 00:11:48,270 finance, and Public Administration 250 00:11:48,270 --> 00:11:49,878 all are negative, 251 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,688 all have negative coefficients. 252 00:11:51,688 --> 00:11:53,948 And so to explain this, 253 00:11:53,950 --> 00:11:55,822 there are a couple of couple 254 00:11:55,822 --> 00:11:58,030 of things that we can consider. 255 00:11:58,030 --> 00:12:00,599 The most obvious one is that since 256 00:12:00,599 --> 00:12:02,187 we're taking basic employment 257 00:12:02,187 --> 00:12:04,641 from 2011 and looking at non- 258 00:12:04,641 --> 00:12:06,290 basic employment in 2012, 259 00:12:06,290 --> 00:12:09,363 it could take shorter or longer for 260 00:12:09,363 --> 00:12:12,238 those non basic jobs to be added, 261 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,865 in which case they would not be 262 00:12:14,865 --> 00:12:16,920 reflected in this regression. 263 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,108 So, for example, 264 00:12:18,108 --> 00:12:20,088 if a public administrator is 265 00:12:20,088 --> 00:12:22,899 hired in February of 2011 and the 266 00:12:22,899 --> 00:12:25,445 local grocery store to keep up 267 00:12:25,445 --> 00:12:27,537 with this public administrators, 268 00:12:30,310 --> 00:12:32,858 To keep up with those public administrators, 269 00:12:32,860 --> 00:12:34,690 groceries hires another grocer in 270 00:12:34,690 --> 00:12:36,860 June that wouldn't be reflected here, 271 00:12:36,860 --> 00:12:38,875 so that's probably the easiest 272 00:12:38,875 --> 00:12:42,011 way to explain why some of these 273 00:12:42,011 --> 00:12:43,577 coefficients are negative. 274 00:12:43,580 --> 00:12:46,268 Moving on to 2017, we're of course 275 00:12:46,268 --> 00:12:48,190 including Social Security recipients, 276 00:12:48,190 --> 00:12:51,116 which has an incredibly low P value, 277 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,634 so it's incredibly significant. In public 278 00:12:53,634 --> 00:12:55,310 administration also remains significant. 279 00:12:55,310 --> 00:12:57,935 However, a couple of things that we 280 00:12:57,935 --> 00:13:00,551 notice here is that this regression 281 00:13:00,551 --> 00:13:03,694 only explains about 40% of the total 282 00:13:03,694 --> 00:13:05,784 variation in non-basic employment, 283 00:13:05,790 --> 00:13:08,598 which is obviously not as accurate 284 00:13:08,598 --> 00:13:12,069 as the 2012 models and the probable 285 00:13:12,070 --> 00:13:14,692 cause for this is the incredible 286 00:13:14,692 --> 00:13:17,260 significance of Social Security recipients. 287 00:13:17,260 --> 00:13:19,620 If you recall the chart, 288 00:13:19,620 --> 00:13:22,610 a couple of slides ago 289 00:13:22,610 --> 00:13:24,750 Social Security recipients has outgrown 290 00:13:24,750 --> 00:13:27,334 growth in any other employment industry 291 00:13:27,334 --> 00:13:30,008 in Virginia by a very significant amount, 292 00:13:30,010 --> 00:13:32,600 so therefore it can kind of dominate 293 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,973 the rest of the data and skew it so 294 00:13:35,973 --> 00:13:38,507 that it's less accurate in predicting 295 00:13:38,507 --> 00:13:41,519 the variation in non-basic employment. 296 00:13:44,330 --> 00:13:47,318 So in conclusion, we are able to say that 297 00:13:47,318 --> 00:13:49,972 Social Security recipients have become 298 00:13:49,972 --> 00:13:52,216 increasingly important to Virginia's 299 00:13:52,216 --> 00:13:54,799 economics as the population ages, 300 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,446 the economy is much more reliant on 301 00:13:57,446 --> 00:14:00,255 people who are receiving Social Security 302 00:14:00,255 --> 00:14:03,435 payments than it has been previously. 303 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,260 Public administration is probably, 304 00:14:05,260 --> 00:14:07,080 to no one surprise, 305 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,355 still a dominant sector of 306 00:14:09,355 --> 00:14:10,720 Virginia's economic base. 307 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,628 It remained significant and 308 00:14:12,628 --> 00:14:15,013 identifiable by a location quotient 309 00:14:15,020 --> 00:14:21,096 In both 2011 and 2016. 310 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:23,220 And then also Virginia's 311 00:14:23,220 --> 00:14:25,970 economic base is becoming less diverse. 312 00:14:25,970 --> 00:14:29,570 In 2011, we were able to identify eight 313 00:14:29,570 --> 00:14:31,839 different sectors that counted as 314 00:14:31,839 --> 00:14:34,828 part of the economic base of Virginia, 315 00:14:34,830 --> 00:14:37,578 and a further six that achieved 316 00:14:37,578 --> 00:14:39,410 statistical significance at a 317 00:14:39,485 --> 00:14:41,386 95% confidence interval. In 2016, 318 00:14:41,386 --> 00:14:43,900 that number had dropped to four 319 00:14:43,974 --> 00:14:46,349 identified by a location quotient, 320 00:14:46,350 --> 00:14:49,451 and only two that met our level 321 00:14:49,451 --> 00:14:50,337 of significance. 322 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,749 And then these are our data sources and 323 00:14:56,749 --> 00:14:58,795 references, our literature and the 324 00:14:58,795 --> 00:15:01,196 Census Bureau and other data that we 325 00:15:01,196 --> 00:15:03,720 have used during this presentation. 326 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,639 We hope that you all have learned 327 00:15:06,639 --> 00:15:08,416 something very interesting about 328 00:15:08,416 --> 00:15:10,676 economic base analysis and its 329 00:15:10,676 --> 00:15:12,904 practicality and what policy makers 330 00:15:12,904 --> 00:15:15,333 can use it for to make decisions. 331 00:15:15,340 --> 00:15:18,245 So thank you for listening to us.